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  1. deidre79

    deidre79 Supertzar

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    Do you seriously think the overall majority in the United States come 2012 will put up with Mr Obama for a second term? I do not King Nothing,..are we talking about New Jersey, Virginia or Massachusetts? :excited:
     
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  2. Old Tool

    Old Tool Porn Star

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    You are actually one of the Tea Partiers that are either incapable or unwilling to explain what would happen if your representatives got elected. How would you go about the process, exactly? How would you manage the relationship with the Federal Reserve? What would you change in the next Omnibus Appropriations Bill? If you're going to reduce/eliminate taxes - which programs would be similarly reduced/eliminated? None of your leadership has answered any of these questions - a party of emotional reaction is not only unconstructive, but historically they've been dangerous.

    Your "platform", however heartfelt, is impotent and pointless until the leadership of the Tea Partiers can step up and be clear about their intent - I am genuinely curious about what the actual plan is . . . I might even support some or all of it if I knew what it was :rolleyes:

    How's the golf game down there in sunny Florida his Spring? All work and no play makes DeeDee a dull girl. :cool:
     
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  3. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Whenever anyone says we should cut taxes and balance the budget, I want a itemized list of which government spending programs should be cut or eliminated. Food stamps, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, earmarks, and foreign aid are each 1% of the budget.

    Few teabaggers advocate cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and military pensions. Many benefit from these programs. They want the United States to continue to spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined.
     
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  4. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    This is not a statement based on fact.

    The US has never spent more on the military than the rest of the world combined.
     
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  5. deidre79

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    Are you actually one of the people out calling tea partiers un American? you are? mmm I know it because you can't read my prior post. They or I have no secret set of candidates? where does this come from? They are as mainstream as anyone else except they want a limited government with fiscal honesty. Be serious Old Tool, the Federal Reserve needs changes in management not policy, maybe a few tweeks, we should have never went off of the gold standard because there was always enough. I hate omnibus bills also because it says they don't care, have they ever? Let me read up on my Wall St Journal so I can give you an honest answer smartie pants. No leaders have to answer any of those questions as long as you understand no and enough is enough. Americans are going to keep kicking incumbents out until we get what we want, you can't stop it really, you have seen it already start in Utah. Again OT you are crazy if you think tea party followers need a wish list of tax programs to appeal to anyone, a sharp pencil goes a long way...+

    I have not been swimming or playing links OT, you? my bowling league ended last month so I try to do yardwork and spend time in my garden for exercise other than work.
     
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  6. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    World Wide Military Expenditures

    World Wide Military Expenditures
    Country Military expenditures - dollar figure Budget Period
    World *****$1100 billion 2004 est.
    Rest-of-World $500 billion 2004 est.
    United States $623 billion FY08 budget

    # SOURCE: Field Listing - Military expenditures CIA
    - The World Factbook 2002 --
    # Field Listing - Military Expenditures CIA - The World Factbook 2006
    # World Military Expenditures and Arms Transfers (WMEAT) The 28th edition of "World Military Expenditures and Arms Transfers" (WMEAT), released on February 6, 2003, is the second published by the Department of State following integration with the U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, the previous publisher. The report covers the years 1989 through 1999 -- that is, the end of the Cold War and its aftermath.

    *not_secure_link*www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/spending.htm
     
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  7. Old Tool

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    I don't use such silly ad hominem attacks - what would be the point? I ask questions because I want to understand. I clearly get the meaning of "no" - but running an enterprise as large and complex as the US (or even individual states) calls for much, MUCH more nuance and subtlety. The platform is the bludgeon - appealing to the lowest common denominator . . . I want to talk about the scalpel.

    If the Tea Partiers become willing (able?) to offer these kinds of details, it may be possible for them to rise above their fringe status and claim a broader constituency. Having a deep feeling about something makes the association(s) amongst those feeling the same way a powerful thing - no need to paint me as un-American for asking questions - I remain unconvinced that these folks have a plan. I would never support a political agenda, movement, ideology, etc. based on emotion alone.

    I played a great round at Lincoln Park in SF yesterday - the view from the 17th tee is one of the most spectacular in all of golf, and it's a public course. :)
     
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  8. Kimiko

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    No, just more than China, Russia, Great Britain, France, Germany and Japan combined. According to SIPRI, the US now is responsible for over 41% of worldwide military spending. Happy now?

    *not_secure_link*www.globalissues.org/article/75/world-military-spending
     
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  9. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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  10. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Happy? Hell no, but it would be nice to stop the generalizations, exaggerations and outright lies, to make a point.

    By the way, this is the first time that the spending has reached that percentage of the world's total. Remind me again, who has been in charge for the last year and a third? Also, who has had control of the Congressional purse strings for the last three years. Which party has had control of the Congress for forty five of the last fifty five years?
     
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  11. deidre79

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    Your entire posts are ad libs at best Old Tool, ad hominems are a dime a dozen on this site. What have you really learned on this forum that you have translated into your real life? Tell me. What do you not understand from my prior posts on here? Can you even envision a congressman or woman or senator much less a President today actually taking the time to listen to what the majority of Americans want, not lobbyists or themselves or constituents? They surely have not been listening since Obama took office. The system has been broke at our expense and it will be fixed. Again if being reponsible to the voters is our plan so be it you try and put it in some context where you must stand for wasteful spending and programs we don't need. I grow tired of this nonsense explaining the concept because it is just that simple.


    mmm, I wish I could have joined you, a sunny day on the course will make you breathe...+
     
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  12. velvetbottom

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    Milton Friedman

    *not_secure_link*reason.com/archives/2009/09/01/friedman-economics

    Is Fed chairman Ben Bernanke a follower of John Maynard Keynes or Milton Friedman?



    The New York Times, for instance, has identified Bernanke as "a student if not necessarily a devotee of the British economist John Maynard Keynes." But Bernanke actually spent most of his academic career elaborating on Friedman's interpretation of the Great Depression.
     
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  13. Old Tool

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    You are too young to remember Mad Libs, the game - but I'll take that as a compliment :rolleyes:



    I try to apply every interaction I have with other humans into a new paradigm for living my life going forward. Even the interactions with so-called crazies, degenerates, traitors, method actors and/or charlatans, patriots, liberals, conservatives, etc. etc.. :lol: If you aren't doing so, I submit you're missing out on the crux of living.

    Your faith in the emerging leadership of the Tea Partiers may be misplaced. I hope someone with some brains and real ethics takes over and wrests control away from the current group at (or near) the top. I hope I'm wrong and they find a way to right the ship - but shouting "no more tipping the ship, dammit!" isn't going to get the job done.
     
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  14. Luigi's

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    siéndo una republica que concientemente habla todo el tiempo del mal y el bien, o que le presta mas atencion a multiplicarse y no creer en el peso de los centavos, no estoy seguro si darle credito al gobierno sobre darte la oportunidad de ser millonario a cambio de tu vida, multiplicarse, eras un 5 ahoras sos un 300, para eso confiara mas en la republica que tiene un peso dura y desemparejable sin mentir, o siendo mas duro consigo mismo porque el republicano te los pide solo para aprender y educar por como puede el infierno ser peor que el gobierno, aunque ellos te dan la oportunidad de multiplicarse te devuelven los 5 centavos, pero si optas por algo fuera de este gobierno, seguramente es un poco peor, tanto como el mismo infierno, que te multiplican a cambio de un uso diario, o necesidad absoluta.
     
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  15. Luigi's

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    Las personas sin trabajo, que ganan una comision, puede elevarse sin embargo la cuestion de estar desempleado, es lo mismo que el retiro, o abandono, por eso mismo, las personas son criticadas como olgazanes, pero como hay activistas en la ciudad, no aparentan ser ni un poco, y la relacion de estudio no tiene mucho que ver, ni por ser un poco de suerte, cuando tienen un objetivo, no lo pierden, y suelen camuflarse, como federales, sin sospechar que solo son simples comerciantes, que los aumentos los aterrorizan, pero terminan en un estado de extincion por los aumentos, porque no logran ganar nada, porque las empresas grandes les pagan cada dia y les aumentan mas y mas a personas como los senadores, que ganan 170.000 cuando no vendieron de forma federal ningun raziocinio, y si lo hacen de forma civil, tienen un monton de clientes, que por sus familias necesitan ganar esa parte de los aumentos, o deficit. y se preocupan por el deficit, luego ganan esa obra social, o ese estado de trabajo, y son puestos en justicia familiar, pero la justicia se rompe, y solo queda una cosa, hacer un juramento o un parlamento, por esa misma persona senadora, porque se intenta, y si los senadores no pueden conservar un caso, o demostrar justicia, o jurar entre la fe de su casa con la de afuera, o creer en la fe o no creer en ella.
     
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